Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble


Authors Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble join Rhett from Seattle to talk about their new book, which was inspired by their D&D podcast Dragon Talk. The book highlights the ways in which people are using Dungeons & Dragons to fuel creative endeavors, explore identity, deal with addiction, and process trauma. Shelly and Greg discuss how the game has evolved and explain why it’s still so popular after 50 years, as it continues to find new players with each generation.


Greg Tito and Shelly Mazzanoble are authors of Welcome to Dragon Talk: Inspiring Conversations about Dungeons & Dragons and the People Who Love to Play It, which will be available on December 5. Pre-order the book here.


Shelly Mazzanoble is author of Confessions of a Part-Time Sorceress: A Girl’s Guide to the Dungeons & Dragons Game. Greg Tito is an author, screenwriter, and former standup comic.


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